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#459 of 463: William Hale (hinging0) Tue 28 Feb 2012 (11:45 PM)
U.S. Sees Iran Attacks as Likely if Israel Strikes
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An Iranian soldier participated in naval exercises in the Strait of
Hormuz last year. Iran could try to block, even temporarily, the strait
to further unsettle oil markets.
By THOM SHANKER, HELENE COOPER and ETHAN BRONNER
Published: February 29, 2012
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WASHINGTON — American officials who have assessed the likely Iranian
responses to any attack by Israel on its nuclear program believe that
Iran would retaliate by launching missiles on Israel and
terrorist-style attacks on United States civilian and military
personnel overseas.
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Iranian cadets at graduation. American and Israeli officials believe
that the last thing Iran would want is a war on its territory.
While a missile retaliation against Israel would be virtually certain,
according to these assessments, Iran would also be likely to try to
calibrate its response against American targets so as not to give the
United States a rationale for taking military action that could
permanently cripple Tehran’s nuclear program. “The Iranians have been
pretty good masters of escalation control,” said Gen. James E.
Cartwright, now retired, who as the top officer at Strategic Command
and as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff participated in war
games involving both deterrence and retaliation on potential
adversaries like Iran.
The Iranian targets, General Cartwright and other American analysts
believe, would include petroleum infrastructure in the Persian Gulf,
and American troops in Afghanistan, where Iran has been accused of
shipping explosives to local insurgent forces.
Both American and Israeli officials who discussed current thinking on
the potential ramifications of an Israeli attack believe that the last
thing Iran would want is a full-scale war on its territory. Their
analysis, however, also includes the broad caveat that it is impossible
to know the internal thinking of the senior leadership in Tehran, and
is informed by the awareness that even the most detailed war games
cannot predict how nations and their leaders will react in the heat of
conflict. Yet such assessments are not just intellectual exercises. Any
conclusions on how the Iranians will react to an attack will help
determine whether the Israelis launch a strike — and what the American
position will be if they do.
While evidence suggests that Iran continues to make progress toward a
nuclear weapons program, American intelligence officials believe that
there is no hard evidence that Iran has decided to build a nuclear
bomb. But the possibility that Israel will launch a pre-emptive strike
has become a focus of American policy makers and is expected to be a
primary topic when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel meets
with President Obama at the White House on Monday.
In November, Israel’s defense minister, Ehud Barak, said any Iranian
retaliation for an Israeli attack would be “bearable,” and his
government’s estimate that Iran is engaging in a bluff has been a key
element in the heightened expectations that Israel is considering a
strike. But Iran’s highly compartmentalized security services, analysts
caution, may operate in semi-rogue fashion, following goals that seem
irrational to planners in Washington. American experts, for example,
are still puzzled by a suspected Iranian plot last year to assassinate
the Saudi ambassador in Washington.
“Once military strikes and counterstrikes begin, you are on the
tiger’s back,” said Ray Takeyh, a former Obama administration national
security official who is now at the Council on Foreign Relations. “And
when on the tiger’s back, you cannot always pick the place to
dismount.”
If Israel did attack, officials said, Iran would be foolhardy, even
suicidal, to invite an overpowering retaliation by directly attacking
United States military targets — by, for example, unleashing its
missiles at American bases on the territory of Persian Gulf allies.
“The balance the Iranians will try to strike is doing damage that is
sufficiently significant, but just short of what it would take for
America to invade,” said General Cartwright, now at the Center for
Strategic and International Studies.
A former Israeli official said the best way to think about retaliation
against Israel was through a formula he called “1991 plus 2006 plus
Buenos Aires times 3 or 5.” The reference was to three instances in the
last two decades when Israel came under attack: the Scud missiles sent
by Saddam Hussein into Israel in 1991 during the first gulf war; the
3,000 rockets fired at Israel by Hezbollah during their 2006 war; and
the attacks on the Israeli Embassy and a Jewish center in Argentina in
the early 1990s. Those attacks each killed 100 to 200 people, wounded
scores more and caused several billion dollars of property damage.
Hundreds of thousands of Israelis in the north had to be evacuated from
their homes to bomb shelters or further south during the 2006 war.
But there is a broad Israeli assessment that Iran’s response to an
attack would be limited.
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Thom Shanker and Helene Cooper reported from Washington, and Ethan
Bronner from Jerusalem. Eric Schmitt contributed reporting from
Washington.
===========NH:
But as to loss of Israeli moral high ground in the continuing living
word of God…
Especially when no self insurance for peaceful use policy has been
offered first…
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#460 of 463: William Hale (hinging0) Tue 28 Feb 2012 (11:46 PM)
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“If Iran is struck surgically, it will react — no doubt,” said the
former Israeli official, echoing Mr. Barak’s comments last year. “But
that reaction will be calculated and in proportion to its capabilities.
Iran will not set the Middle East on fire.”
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“Is 40 missiles on Tel Aviv nice?” the official asked, summing up the
Israeli calculus. “No. But it’s better than a nuclear Iran.”
=========NH:
and just enough to keep the extortionists playing the protection
racket game in charge of their sheep without having to covertly
intimidate them yourselves?
=========NH//
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#461 of 463: William Hale (hinging0) Tue 28 Feb 2012 (11:48 PM)
By contrast, administration, military and intelligence officials say
Iran would most likely choose anonymous, indirect attacks against
nations it views as supporting Israeli policy, in the hope of offering
Tehran at least public deniability. Iran also might try to block, even
temporarily, the Strait of Hormuz to further unsettle oil markets.
An increase in car bombs set off against civilian targets in world
capitals would also be possible. And Iran would almost certainly
smuggle high-powered explosives across its border into Afghanistan,
where they could be planted along roadways and set off by surrogate
forces to kill and maim American and NATO troops — much as it did in
Iraq during the peak of violence there. But Iran’s primary goal would
be quickly rebuilding — and probably accelerating — its nuclear
program, and thus, according to these assessments, it would be likely
to try to avoid inviting a punishing second wave of attacks by the
United States.
==========NH:
[thn/]
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#462 of 463: William Hale (hinging0) Tue 28 Feb 2012 (11:49 PM)
Vali Nasr, a professor of international politics at the Fletcher
School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University,
==========NH:
xref: Great circles, d-LSD-25 mafias, artists, Hollywood, and what
else? Independence. And what else?
==========NH//
=======NH:
Vale? Vassar?
=========NH//
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#463 of 463: William Hale (hinging0) Tue 28 Feb 2012 (11:56 PM)
U.S. Sees Iran Attacks as Likely if Israel Strikes
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“If Iran is struck surgically, it will react — no doubt,” said the
former Israeli official, echoing Mr. Barak’s comments last year. “But
that reaction will be calculated and in proportion to its capabilities.
Iran will not set the Middle East on fire.”
Related
Iran Calls Nuclear Arms Production a ‘Great Sin’ (February 29, 2012)
Iran Raid Seen as a Huge Task for Israeli Jets (February 20, 2012)
Times Topics: Iran | Israel
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“Is 40 missiles on Tel Aviv nice?” the official asked, summing up the
Israeli calculus. “No. But it’s better than a nuclear Iran.”
By contrast, administration, military and intelligence officials say
Iran would most likely choose anonymous, indirect attacks against
nations it views as supporting Israeli policy, in the hope of offering
Tehran at least public deniability. Iran also might try to block, even
temporarily, the Strait of Hormuz to further unsettle oil markets.
An increase in car bombs set off against civilian targets in world
capitals would also be possible. And Iran would almost certainly
smuggle high-powered explosives across its border into Afghanistan,
where they could be planted along roadways and set off by surrogate
forces to kill and maim American and NATO troops — much as it did in
Iraq during the peak of violence there. But Iran’s primary goal would
be quickly rebuilding — and probably accelerating — its nuclear
program, and thus, according to these assessments, it would be likely
to try to avoid inviting a punishing second wave of attacks by the
United States.
Vali Nasr, a professor of international politics at the Fletcher
School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University, said Iran would “have
to retaliate visibly against Israel to protect its image at home and in
the region.” Along a second line of reprisals, Iran also “would try
and keep the United States busy by escalating tensions in Lebanon,
Syria, Egypt, Iraq and Afghanistan,” he said.
In 2009, the Brookings Institution held a simulation to assess Day 2
of an Israeli attack on Iran, casting former government officials,
diplomats and regional experts in the roles of American, Israeli and
Iranian officials. Karim Sadjadpour, of the Carnegie Endowment for
International Peace, played Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali
Khamenei. The faux Iranian leadership had to “calibrate their response
with great precision,” he said. “If they respond too little, they could
lose face, and if they respond too much, they could lose their heads.”
During the simulation, Iran also fired missiles at Israeli military
and nuclear targets, and unleashed Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad
militants to fire rockets at population centers in Israel, with a goal
to create an atmosphere of terror among Israelis. In the simulation,
Iran also activated terrorist cells in Europe, which bombed public
transportation and killed civilians.
Mr. Sadjadpour said that one thing the exercise demonstrated was how
quickly things would deteriorate, adding that “as for long-term
consequences, it’s way too murky to say anything but this: It will be
ugly.”
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Thom Shanker and Helene Cooper reported from Washington, and Ethan
Bronner from Jerusalem. Eric Schmitt contributed reporting from
Washington.
==========NH:
vs. “Put your money where your mouth is” – self insurance of peaceful
and defensive use only of uranium.
==========NH//
=========NH:
xref: the traditional argument: “I don’t agree with what you say, but
I will defend to the death your right to say it,”
vs. these childish games by “tough guys” in the “protection racket”
who have failed to offer any kind of self-insurance of peaceful and
defensive use only of uranium – on EITHER side.
And who all so in debt trying to woo their ‘sheep’ who has not moved
close enough to God to comprehend sovereign assets and appreciation
through homogeneous assessment, eminent domain, and the right of
repurchase, lease, or rental…
Lord of the Flies, gangs of bullies – judge not that ye be not judged,
diagnose and heal so that your self might be [thnk/]
May whose self insurance proposal get heard widely enough soon enough
to make one and all ask the question, “Why hash’ it been offered?”
===========NH//
Is this an intentional foul to make whose self insurance for peaceful and defensive use only look good? Or is it tag team bullying on the play ground between at risk students?
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