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When I respond, or seek responses, I think of the Internet Republic and the people [[whump]] and the places who have made our water world Eden brave and free and fair. Permitted, required, and impossible. Stand alone or stand with, whose choice to what degree [[Thn/]] O[[thn/]]ne water world Eden under "We the people" – created by whom?

xref: “Who, or why can stand alone, or stand with? Whose choice? To what degree? Why?”

Baca emphasized then that many illegal immigrants were already driving without having passed a driver’s test or buying auto insurance.

“At some point in time, we will allow illegal immigrants to have a driver’s license as long as they are trustworthy and non-criminal people,” Baca said at the time.
In an interview Thursday, Baca said he felt the campaign for licenses a decade ago failed because it was not restrictive enough about what types of illegal immigrants it would have applied to.

“You can’t do this en masse and make the average citizen happy,” he said.

Baca said he believes the larger issue is finding a way to regulate and legalize more immigrant labor. He said if a “sensible” push for licenses gets going in L.A. County, he would join the effort.

Beck said he expected the number of hit-and-run accidents would decrease if illegal immigrants were licensed, because they would not have to fear being caught without a license at accidents.

Beck’s stance is certain to further inflame critics who are already angry at the chief for his efforts to liberalize rules on how his officers impound the cars of unlicensed drivers.

On Wednesday, Beck said he does not believe licenses for illegal immigrants should be identical to standard licenses, saying “it could be a provisional license, it could be a non-resident license.” He acknowledged that state officials would have to find ways to address widely held concerns that giving licenses to people who are in the country illegally could make it easier for terrorists to go undetected.

Such concerns, however, were outweighed for Beck by what he said would be improved safety on California’s roads and the ability of police to identify the people they encounter. “Why wouldn’t you want to put people through a rigorous testing process? Why wouldn’t you want to better identify people who are going to be here?” he said.

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