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Why is it so difficult to know what occurred before or after what else?

#687 of 694: ass ettering (obizuth) Thu 30 Aug 2012 (04:52 PM)

oh! thank you, british person.

plumage 621: The Plumage Conference as Your Personal Shopper
#688 of 694: raw bacon toes (fsquared) Thu 30 Aug 2012 (06:02 PM)

I would love to see it on a real person i.e. YOU.

plumage 621: The Plumage Conference as Your Personal Shopper
#689 of 694: William Hale (hinging0) Sat 01 Sep 2012 (07:55 PM)

Would you like to do this with, or without me, or sell the idea to a
third party, or not do it at all?

Clothes
Test

{[That’s all]}

Dress
Test

Test
Dress

Fit
Par courses

1. Your body type and life style catagorized by the par course and
your choices and performance on it.

2. Fashions intended for certain kind of results or ‘fits’ on the par
course so you can chose to vector yourself in what ways.

These clothes facilitate these kinds of moves regarding thermal
envelopes… whereas these clothes facilitate these other kinds of
moves which are mutually exclusive to the first set.

These clothes make it difficult to bend over – they remind you your in
a formal situation…

These clothes depend upon you keeping your ear, shoulder, hip, knee,
and ankle all lined up in order for them to do their part, whereas
these other clothes have pressure points which will remind you if you
are not [thn/] doing your part for good posture.

This item of clothing can do this, or this, or this or this, depending
upon whether you do this or this, or this, adjustment, and these par
course moves call for this adjustment, while these other par course
moves call for this adjustment.

This is the private section of the par course -only you and who is
with you, and the mirrors can see how you look, and these clothes
permit you to adjust your openness to this degree, or this degree, or
this degree, when you are in private with whom you are related to by
marriage or birth.

And THESE clothes permit these clothes to be under them so you can
change from this mode of par course movement, to this degree of
freedom, while still having your social armour handy to transition back
out…

Test the fit of these shoes up an inclined plane, or down, or on
steps…

And as to your ability to program your environment – by moving this
way, you send this message, but by moving this way…

Or will who simply take another of whose ideas without attribution,
credit, or compensation with what rationalization?

plumage 621: The Plumage Conference as Your Personal Shopper
#690 of 694: William Hale (hinging0) Sat 01 Sep 2012 (07:59 PM)

IN STORE par course (s) designed to enable shoppers to teach their
body language to clerks and designers – and also designed to teach
shoppers body language designers and clerks want shoppers to
experience.

plumage 621: The Plumage Conference as Your Personal Shopper
#691 of 694: no mustard as a color to wear (fom) Sat 01 Sep 2012 (10:31 PM)

I realize that a lot of that is speculative but a surprising amount of it
is realistic. It’s kind of Vivienne Westwood-esque.

There are certainly garments that demand good posture, or else they don’t
fit right. There are shoe stores that have you test the shoes on inclined
planes and fake rocks. As for this:

>And THESE clothes permit these clothes to be under them so you can
change from this mode of par course movement, to this degree of
freedom, while still having your social armour handy to transition back
out…

can be read as an elaborate description of how it works to dress in
layers.

I’d like to hear more of this. Maybe it needs its own topic.

plumage 621: The Plumage Conference as Your Personal Shopper
#692 of 694: William Hale (hinging0) Sun 02 Sep 2012 (07:04 AM)

It’s kind of Vivienne Westwood-esque.

=========NH:
Perfect description, fom.
========NH//

demand

=========NH:
xref: article in the last 18 months or so about a runway model who
walked a certain way; xref: designing indoor par courses for clothing
stores with hop scotch-style squares designed to teach (and learn)
different styles of walking. Japanese would bind feet of women to get
them to take small steps, but to experience a fashion which enforces a
“Look before you leap” movement pattern, simply a caftan without a slit
in the side prevents the wearer from taking too long a step, or trying
to step over things.
=========NH//

demand

==========NH:
To what degree would customers demand the fashion par course
experience? To what degree might they learn new postures, gestures, and
motions? I know I like to be able to pray in my clothes, so I need a
loose fit in the crotch and a long shirt to cover my butt when I
prostrate to keep a feeling of modesty. Yet I find sometimes the loose
fit binds on my knees and I need to pull the pant leg up some before
prostrating.

Another example is who anticipating who would want to start with a
back rub and escalate from a back rub to greater degrees of intimacy.
To whose surprise when who got to the back rub position and tried to
put whose hands under whose shirt who found the tight ‘V’ cut of the
torso prohibited that move, but how would you teach / learn about that
via a fashion statement par course?

What about different ways to sit? How many different ways are there to
sit? What design of chair, bench, perch, footrest, and / or ground
would clue whom in on body language expression possible from the way
you take relative rest?

It’s true some shoe sales areas already different inclines for you to
test the fit of shoes (Have you found any that offer a sand box as part
of that yet?)

It might be that ANY fashion would work with some of the lessons such
a par course could teach – like doing upward pressing isometrics on the
bottom of the table while you sit at it.

In a world of gimmicks – fashion expression par courses inside
clothing stores could too easily be simply another gimmick.

In a world of physics – fashion expression par courses (indoor and
outdoor) could be valuable teaching and learning tools with cameras and
mics and screens integrated into them with customized interactive
responding and seeking of response based upon what who wore how and how
who moved while who wore it while moving through the par course.

Who might learn they need to spend more of their clothing budget on
orthopedic corrective shoes to correct for being pigeon toed, or duck
footed.

Who might learn fashions that keep who mindful of strengthening whose
core muscle group in the abdominal area is called for for the next 18
months until whose motion profile shows that has been corrected…

The universal gym manufacturing company might be interested…

If who is willing to wait two weeks, custom length T-shirts, etc.
might be able to be generated by interacting with the par course and
then fine tuning the feed back on screen sending it to the manufacture
whose computer would then make that exact T shirt, or pants, or dress.

I went to a tuxedo rental place and was measured, but the custom order
suit from SE Asia did not fit in the rear at all. To the degree
electric eyes could measure whom and assure a good custom fit verified
by the experience of the clerk…

What else?

I’m supposed to be doing other things, but the coincidence of finding
your link to this conference after passing a clothing store yesterday
where the idea came up inspired me to share it with you…

It could start off as something as simple as getting the customer to
feel the difference between shallow pockets or deep pockets, or no
pockets and what it means about what you do with your hands when, and
what kind of walking styles relate to that…

Sports medicine has all this motion analysis equipment for Olympic
Athletes. Does the fashion industry already do that / this kind of
thing?

==========Null Hypothesis//

plumage 621: The Plumage Conference as Your Personal Shopper
#693 of 694: no mustard as a color to wear (fom) Sun 02 Sep 2012 (11:28 AM)

A possible comparison might be to high-end bike fitters, who for several
hundred dollars will carefully measure and test a professional bicyclist’s
bike for optimum fit to the individual’s body. In accounts I have read,
the cyclist then goes on to get better times and generally ride more
efficiently — even if the changes that were prescribed by the bike fitter
seemed to be very small.

plumage 621: The Plumage Conference as Your Personal Shopper
#694 of 694: William Hale (hinging0) Sun 02 Sep 2012 (07:05 PM)

“Seams to me…”

========NH:
There are basically only a few kinds of bicycles – mountain bike,
street bike, cross training bike, specialty bikes…

But there are so many different kinds of fashions…

The roaring 20’s flapper clothes worked well with the Charleston dance
and what other body language moves?

To the degree a universal gym adapted to be a universal fashion par
course, or interactive sports medicine style feed back environment…

The modern day fashions…

The Japanese Pavillion at Shanghai Expo 2010 had a floor which
generated electricity from the pressure of the feet of the people
walking across it all day… To the degree sensors could profile a
customer wearing a fashion and interact with him or her, and generate a
mini-fashion concert – could it add useful significance to the
purchase process?

Why is it so difficult to know what occurred before or after what else?

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